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So I just ran across a concept and thought, "Oh, like in that Orson Scott Card story. You know, the infamous one."

Would y'all know which story I meant? Which story do you think I mean?

Cuz _I_ think of this story as particularly infamous, but I'm thinking that could apply to a lot of his short stories.

This is awful meta, even for me. Bed now, before I get any worse.

UPDATE: See the later comments for the name of thestory. I don't give specifics but I pretty much spoil the concept, and what I think REALLY gives the story impact, in my remarks about it, just FYI.

Date: 2004-08-04 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sstrickl.livejournal.com
I'm responding to the post with the mood and such because I assume this won't be the one you delete later. I'm really wanting to know which story this is, though, considering I just read through his short story collection again recently. As for my guess, I've no idea, though if I come up with one, I'll let you know.

Well, unless it has to do with goo and horizontal thinking.

Date: 2004-08-04 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
Wise guess. Damn computer clock.

I wasn't thinking of goo and horizontal thinking, unless that was involved in this story and I just don't remember it. Goo really isn't the point of the tale I have in mind, though.

Date: 2004-08-04 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sstrickl.livejournal.com
Unless it was the pseudo-cyberpunk one, it isn't.

Maybe the one where they plant the devices to dissolve technological devices into their their component elements so that future generations won't know they existed?

Date: 2004-08-04 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewin.livejournal.com
If I think "the infamous OSC story", the very first thing that comes to mind is flipper babies.

Unless you're using the word "story" in a general sense, to include his books as well. :) But as far as his short stories go, the flipper baby one definitely had the most notorious impact on me...

Date: 2004-08-04 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sstrickl.livejournal.com
Oh, good point. I'd forgotten the toilet baby.

Date: 2004-08-05 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
Oh good.

That wasn't the one I thought of last night, but I was thinking that the OTHER most infamous story I could think of was the flipper baby story.

I LOVE the flipper baby story. It's my fave. I once read it aloud to others by flashlight, while sitting in a tree. Good stuff, man. In a very disturbing way.

Date: 2004-08-04 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stolen-tea.livejournal.com
Personally, I'd say "Highway Games" (if I remember the title right)... It's in the "Maps in a Mirror" collection, somewhere.

Date: 2004-08-04 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sstrickl.livejournal.com
Everytime I drive down to my parents' or back, this story always comes to mind because there's a stretch where it either feels like I'm following someone too eerily or vice versa. Man, everyone remembers the "normal" stories right off, whereas I tend to remember the more futuristic ones.

Date: 2004-08-05 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
I have no idea which one that is, but I'm pretty sure it isn't the one I'm thinking of. For the most part I don't remember the titles of OCS stories so you'll have to mention the concept, I'm afraid.

Well, except for "Eumenides in the Fourth Floor Lavatory," which is of course the flipper baby story.

Date: 2004-08-05 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybird97.livejournal.com
Oh, right! Now I remember that one. That one was pretty bad. I mean, a good story, but creepy.

Date: 2004-08-05 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybird97.livejournal.com
The only one I can think of is the one about the pianist. One of only two stories that have made me cry at SR...

Date: 2004-08-05 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
Oh jeez, I can't even remember that one. Clearly I need to go back and re-read Card. *sigh*

Date: 2004-08-05 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybird97.livejournal.com
I think [livejournal.com profile] jendavis77 was the one who read it. Beautiful beautiful story...but really painful.

Date: 2004-08-05 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
That's Card for you. It's the one about isolating a musician so he can only hear nature sounds and create music that's uncontaminated by other human music, right?

Date: 2004-08-05 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybird97.livejournal.com
Well...he does get isolated. I'll email you the rest of it so that I don't go too far over into spoiler-land.

Date: 2004-08-05 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com
So to answer my own question: I was thinking of "A Thousand Deaths," which is about, well, a thousand deaths. Or at least, many deaths. Repeated death. As a political tool.

I think of it as infamous cuz supposedly Card's wife couldn't stand to read the whole thing. I think it's not the repeated death that's bad, though that's brutal, it's that it's carried out in as disgusting a manner as possible. I won't say any more for those who haven't read it. But y'know, when you don't have to make sure a body's still pretty intact in order to be revivified (which is pretty common in a lot of sci-fi and fantasy), it sure opens up new windows for arcane tortures.

One thing's for sure, Card's a sick fuck.

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